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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : لُحُومِ الإِبِلِ camel meat


أم أبي التراب
04-29-2017, 08:18 PM
قال الإمام مسلم في صحيحه : حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو كَامِلٍ، فُضَيْلُ بْنُ حُسَيْنٍ الْجَحْدَرِيُّ ،قال: حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَوَانَةَ، عَنْ عُثْمَانَ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مَوْهَبٍ، عَنْ جَعْفَرِ بْنِ أَبِي ثَوْرٍ، عَنْ جَابِرِ بْنِ سَمُرَةَ، أَنَّ رَجُلاً، سَأَلَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَأَتَوَضَّأُ مِنْ لُحُومِ الْغَنَمِ قَالَ ‏"‏ إِنْ شِئْتَ فَتَوَضَّأْ وَإِنْ شِئْتَ فَلاَ تَوَضَّأْ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَتَوَضَّأُ مِنْ لُحُومِ الإِبِلِ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ فَتَوَضَّأْ مِنْ لُحُومِ الإِبِلِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أُصَلِّي فِي مَرَابِضِ الْغَنَمِ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أُصَلِّي فِي مَبَارِكِ الإِبِلِ قَالَ ‏"‏ لاَ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
(25) باب الْوُضُوءِ مِنْ لُحُومِ الإِبِلِ. هنا (https://sunnah.com/muslim/3/123) .

A man asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace he upon him) whether he should perform ablution after (eating) mutton. He (the Messenger of Allah) said: Perform ablution it you so desire, and if you do not wish, do not perform it. He (again) asked: Should I perform ablution (after eating) camel's flesh? He said: Yes, perform ablution (after eating) camel's flesh. He (again) said: May I say prayer in the sheepfolds? He (the Messenger of Allah) said: Yes. He (the narrator) again said: May I say prayer where camels lie down? He (the Holy Prophet) said: No.

أم أبي التراب
04-29-2017, 08:20 PM
لا يجب الوضوء من ألبان الإبل

الحمد لله
ذهب عامة أهل العلم إلى أنه لا يجب الوضوء من ألبان الإبل ، وهو المشهور من مذهب الإمام أحمد رحمه الله ، ويدل على ذلك عدة أدلة :

1- أن الأصل عدم نقض الوضوء ، وليس هناك دليل صحيح يدل على نقض الوضوء بشرب لبن الإبل .

2- أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أمر القوم الذين قدموا إلى المدينة وأصابهم مرض أن يشربوا من أبوال الإبل وألبانها . رواه البخاري (233) ومسلم (1671) ، ولو كان شرب لبنها ناقضاً للوضوء لبين ذلك النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم .

انظر : "المغني" (1/245) ، "الإنصاف" (2/58) الشرح الممتع (1/209) .

وأما ما رواه أحمد (18617) وابن ماجه (496) عَنْ أُسَيْدِ بْنِ حُضَيْرٍ رضي الله عنه قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : ( لا تَتَوَضَّئُوا مِنْ أَلْبَانِ الْغَنَمِ ، وَتَوَضَّئُوا مِنْ أَلْبَانِ الإِبِل )

وكذلك ما رواه ابن ماجه (497) عن عَبْد اللَّهِ بْن عُمَرَ رضي الله عنهما قال : سَمِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ : ( تَوَضَّئُوا مِنْ لُحُومِ الإِبِلِ ، وَلا تَتَوَضَّئُوا مِنْ لُحُومِ الْغَنَمِ ، وَتَوَضَّئُوا مِنْ أَلْبَانِ الإِبِلِ ، وَلا تَوَضَّئُوا مِنْ أَلْبَانِ الْغَنَمِ ) .

فكلا الحديثين ضعيف لا يصح الاحتجاج به ، وقد ضعفهما الألباني في ضعيف ابن ماجه .

ولو صح هذا الحديث لأمكن أن يحمل الأمر فيه بالوضوء من لبن الإبل على الاستحباب ، جمعاً بينه وبين الحديث السابق ذكره .

والله أعلم .
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أم أبي التراب
04-29-2017, 08:22 PM
It is not obligatory to do wudoo’ after drinking camel’s milk


I have read question 7103, where it says that eating camel meat is one of the things that invalidate wudoo’. Is it obligatory to do wudoo’ after drinking camel’s milk too?.


Praise be to Allaah.

Most of the scholars are of the view that it is not obligatory to do wudoo’ after drinking camel’s milk. This is the well-known view of Imam Ahmad (may Allaah have mercy on him). This is indicated by a number of things:

1 – The basic principle is that things do not break wudoo, and there is no saheeh evidence to suggest that wudoo’ is invalidated by drinking camel’s milk.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told some people who came to Madeenah and got sick to drink camel’s urine and milk. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (233) and Muslim (1671). If drinking their milk invalidated wudoo’, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would have told them about that.

See al-Mughni, 1/245; al-Insaaf, 2/58; al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 1/209

With regard to the hadeeth narrated by Ahmad (18617) and Ibn Maajah (496) from Usayd ibn Hudayr (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not do wudoo after (drinking) sheep’s milk but do wudoo’ after (drinking) camel’s milk,” and the hadeeth narrated by Ibn Maajah (497) from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Do wudoo’ after (eating) camel meat and so not do wudoo’ after eating mutton; do wudoo’ after (drinking) camel’s milk but do not do wudoo after (drinking) sheep’s milk,” both of these ahaadeeth are weak and cannot be quoted as evidence. They were classed as da’eef by al-Albaani in Da’eef Ibn Maajah.

Even if this hadeeth were saheeh, the command mentioned therein could be understood as meaning that it is mustahabb to do wudoo’ after drinking camel’s milk, so as to reconcile it with the hadeeth quoted above.
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